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i'm norah o'donnell. tonight, our global exclusive with pope francis. our conversation about the world's children. >> the cbs evening news is next >> norah: your holiness, what an honor. tonight, our exclusive in-depth conversation with pope francis at the vatican. his message for the world as he pleads for peace ahead of the church's first world children's day. can you help negotiate peace? the "cbs evening news" starts
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now. ♪ ♪ good evening. and welcome to this special edition of the "cbs evening news" from rome. thank you for being with us. i'm norah o'donnell, overlooking the vatican, where just a few hours ago, we interviewed the holy father, pope francis. the head of the catholic church shares his insight on the state of the world in his first extensive one-on-one interview with a u.s. television network. his holiness spoke to us about war, peace, famine, and climate change, all with the world's children in mind. our sitdown comes ahead of the vatican's first world children's day, with a message that all kids are "precious in god's eyes." we have been in rome and vatican city for a few days now, speaking with people from around the world who have made the sacred pilgrimage to reconnect with their faith, pray at the sistine chapel, and have a
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chance to see pope francis. a reminder that people of all faiths turn to pope francis for guidance on the world's most difficult issues, making our conversation with his holiness that much more important. oh, my goodness. bongiorno, your holiness. what an honor. such an honor to meet you. lovely to meet you. thank you so much for doing this. we met pope francis today at casa santa marta, the guest house the pontiff lives, instead of the lavish papal palace. at 87 years old, he may have trouble walking, but he had no difficulty sitting down with us for an hour long conversation. how is your health? >> interpreter: my health is good. >> norah: in nearly every address... the pope often calls for peace. he condemned hamas' october 7th attack, but is also called on israel to use restraint.
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there are now pairs of starving children coming out of gaza. what about those that call that a genocide? >> interpreter: genocide. every afternoon at 7:00 p.m., i call gaza to the parish. there were about 600 people there, and they tell me what is going on. it's very hard. very, very hard. food goes in. but they have to fight for it. it's very hard. >> norah: i know you call for peace. you have called for a cease-fire in many of your sermons. can you help negotiate peace? >> interpreter: i can pray. i pray a lot. >> norah: during world children's day, which is the end of may, the u.n. says over a million people will be facing
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famine in gaza. many of them children. what can be done? >> interpreter: not only gaza. we should think about ukraine. those kids don't know how to smile. i tell them something, but they forgot how to smile. and this is very hard when a child forgets to smile. that's really very serious. very serious. >> norah: do you have a message for vladimir putin when it comes to ukraine? >> interpreter: please, countries at war, all of them. stop the war. look to negotiate. look for peace. a negotiated peace is better than a war without end.
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>> norah: his most holy father is considered one of the most influential people in the world. leading nearly 1.4 billion catholics. he is the first pope from the americas, the first jesuit, and will host the vatican's first world children's day next month. i love that you take the kids in the pope mobile with you and bring them up to the palace when you say a prayer. why do you do that? >> interpreter: children always bear a message. they bear a message and it is a way for us to have a younger heart. >> norah: francis is also the first pontiff to make climate change a priority. in 2015, to make an important point, images of the environment were projected onto st. peter's basilica. the dome designed in the mid-16th century by miche
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michelangelo. what do you say to the deniers of climate change? >> interpreter: there are people who are foolish, and foolish even if you show them research, they don't believe it. why? because they don't understand the situation or because of their interests. but climate change exists. >> norah: his progressive style has made him popular worldwide, with millions coming here to st. peter's square to catch a glimpse of the holy father. >> it is emotional, just being here, going into st. peter's basilica, going into the sistine chapel, just tears coming into our eyes because we are actually, you can feel the spirit. >> norah: sophia and aaron came with their family from san diego, california. how did it make you feel when he came out the window?
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>> it made me feel good, like butterflies in my stomach. >> norah: still, the number of catholics in america is dwindling. in the u.s., only 20% of adults identify as catholic, and that is down from 24% in 2007. i wonder if you could, speak to those who don't go to mass anymore, or maybe don't see a place for themselves in the catholic church. >> interpreter: i would say there was always a place, always. if, in this parish, the priest doesn't seem welcoming, i understand, but go and look. there is always a place. do not run away from the church. the church is very big. it's more than a temple. it's more. you shouldn't run away from it.
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>> norah: we also asked the pope about the migrant crisis, gay rights, women's role in the church, and whether he is thinking about retirement. we'll have that and much more on "60 minutes" on sunday, may 19th, and that a prime time special on monday, may 20th, right here on cbs. for our interview with pope francis, we also wanted to take a pulse of the catholic church back home in the u.s., so we asked catholics in cities across the country about their relationship with the church, how they feel about this pope, and what message they want to hear from him. >> i would describe the pope as transformative. he is a one-of-a-kind papacy. >> i think he has done a great job talking about the marginalized, the poor, the caring for the environment. >> we support him. he is our guide. >> reporter: like the church he leads, americans opinions of
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pope francis are diverse. >> he's got some things i agree with, some things maybe i don't agree with. >> you always need popes that challenge our way of thinking, and i think he is doing that. >> reporter: while a majority of american catholics view francis favorably, many we spoke with thought the church needed to evolve. 83% of u.s. catholics want the church to allow the use of contraception, and more than half think the church should recognize gay marriage. >> i think they do need to bring women into the church. >> they need to ordain women as priests, and then to allow priests to marry. >> everything changes, and sometimes i think the church needs to change, too. >> reporter: a recent survey found more americans were leaving the catholic church at higher rates than any other religion. >> i feel like i can just be spiritual anywhere, you know, i don't really necessarily have to go to a church. you know, and if you like that is the old school way of thinking. >> i think there has been a lot of bad news about the catholics, religion, about the priest, in general, and i think people have turned around and walked away
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from that. >> we have a lot of young people that grew up in the catholic church, but they don't feel that they are getting the message. >> they feel they are not accepted. they feel they might be ostracized. they feel that, like, they don't belong to the church. >> reporter: we spoke with patrick egan, who left the catholic church as a teenager, only to come back in search of a community. he is now a leader at a local parish. does the catholic church feel different under pope francis? >> yes. francis has really tried to open the door to participation by people who have been traditionally outside of the hierarchy. >> reporter: he blames strict adherence to ideology for the decline, but says that can change. what do you think it would take for the catholic church to be able to reconnect with americans? >> they need to meet americans where they are. we are a very secular society, and so if the church can figure out a way to help people understand to how a spiritual journey and a faith community can really make one's life more
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rich and meaningful, that, i think, is also part of the st story. >> norah: and nikki battiste joins us now, and nikki, so many of the people we spoke with thought that pope francis has been much more inclusive. what did you learn? >> reporter: the feeling is very much the same here in the u.s. pope francis has made a concerted effort to soften the message of a catholic church. it's an approach that has angered some of the more conservative followers, but is part of the pope's plan to make all feel welcome. norah? >> norah: we also ask him about those conservative bishops. you'll hear about that later. nikki battiste, thank you. now to tonight's other top story. clashes between police and pro-palestinian demonstrators are intensifying. protests at columbia university in new york are now in their eighth day. and today, the speaker of the house was on campus, calling on the school's president to restore order. cbs's nancy chen has more on the
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growing, nationwide tensions. >> let them go! >> reporter: this was the scene at the university of southern california after-school security tried to stop students fro setting up a protest encampment. hundreds of demonstrators surrounded a patrol car after campus police detained one student who was later released. >> free, free palestine! >> reporter: at the university of texas, austin police in riot gear and officers on horseback confronted about 200 students participating in pro-palestinian rally. on the east coast, demonstrators set up a encampment on harvard yard, and solidarity protesters at columbia university where house speaker mike johnson spoke and was met with both jeers and booze. >> i am here calling with my colleagues to resign if she cannot immediately bring order to this chaos. >> i'm just sitting on the sidewalk! >> reporter: this is day eight of the you wouldn't know my protest at columbia university. the schools that it is making important progress with
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protesters but giving students a deadline to dismantle the tents. protesters say they will not leave until the school commits to cutting business ties with israel. >> we need these administrators of the universities to get control of the situation. if they can't, then we need the national guard, law enforcement, or someone to come in here and take control. >> reporter: are you calling for the national guard to come here? eco-desperate times call for desperate measures appeared to be due for now, new york governor kathy hochul says she has no plans to send in the guard. columbia announced today that because of the unrest, there will be a remote option for upcoming final exams. graduation is set to take place on campus in three weeks, norah. >> norah: nancy chen, thank you so much. we turn now to the supreme court in the case that could have wide ranging implications for women's health care nationwide. at issue is the conflict between idaho is near-total abortion ban and a federal law that requires hospitals to provide emergency medical treatment. cbs's jan crawford was therefore
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the oral arguments. >> reporter: the justices were sharply divided over biden administration arguments that federal law was requires hospitals to provide necessary stabilizing treatment, including abortions, overrides idaho's near total ban, which permits abortion to save a mother's life, but not when her health is at risk. >> idaho law says the doctor has to determine not that there is merely a serious medical condition, but that the person will die. >> reporter: liberal justices provided real-life examples of women who have been denied abortions in states with restrictive laws. >> her life is not in peril, but she is going to lose or reproductive organs. she is going to lose the ability to have children in the future. unless an abortion takes place. >> reporter: but some conservative justices noted that in idaho, doctors can perform some abortions if they believe the woman is in danger of dying. raul labrador is idaho's attorney general. >> they continued to say that this is putting women's lives in
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jeopardy, and it is not. >> reporter: idaho officials say the biden administration is trying to find a backdoor way to brought an abortion access. >> there will be more abortions happening in hospitals because they will create an exception that will allow any type of abortion to happen in the state of idaho. >> reporter: but stacy seyb, a pregnancy doctor in idaho, says physicians are afraid to perform force abortions even if the state law may allow it over fears they could be prosecuted. >> we need to be able to help take care of people, at this point. >> reporter: and, you know, you could face, no. >> yes, and jail time. >> reporter: and in the political world today, another state with a near-total ban, arizona, now poised to repeal it after joining with three arizona republicans in the house. that will go to arizona senate where there is support for the repeal, and then to the governor, who is excited to sign it. that would meet in a arizona, abortions would again be
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♪ ♪ >> norah: back here in rome, overlooking the vatican and st. peter's square and the magnificent basilica. the largest church in the world and the smallest nation in the world. and tonight, we are taking you on a private tour. the beauty by day doesn't hold a candle to its nighttime majesty. how is it that we are the only ones here? >> just for you, for cbs. this is a very important moment for, i think, the english american television. >> norah: yes. and ahead of a very important time for world children's day. >> yes. army, it's a great moment. >> norah: father enzo fortunato tells us 100,000 children will come here. he is organizing the vatican's first world children's day. we visited one of the vatican's most popular treasures: michelangelo's piazza, which
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shows the mother mary holding jesus. oh, my gosh. father fortunato took us where no one gets to go come up close to the masterpiece. this is 500 years old. is going to make me cry. he always says it's the women who save the world. oh, thank you for saying that. why is st. peter's basilica so special? >> because it is the house of the popper, but above all, is the inside the dome of st. peter. >> norah: one of the holiest treasures inside one of christianity's holiest sites. and we'll have some final thoughts from our exclusive interview with pope francis. that's next. ♪ ♪ >> announcer: this portion of the "cbs evening news" is sponsored by sensodyne. number one dentist recommended brand for sensitive teeth. super white teeth.
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dreamt about my whole career at cbs news. it took an entire team of dedicated journalists to make this happen. today, the pope told us that he hopes his legacy is to welcome everyone. and as one time follower told us, pope francis may not change the lyrics of the catholic church, but he is trying to change the tune. you can see much more of our interview in may on "60 minutes" and in a prime time special. and that >> announcer: he had one big problem with a four-legged roommate. >> judge judy: who did you tell that you had a fear of large dogs? >> both ms. kim and ms. williams. they just giggled and did not take me serious. >> announcer: but his fears were real. >> the dog starts barking very, very loudly and bites me on my right thigh. >> judge judy: this dog didn't like you. it only likes women. >> announcer: can he be blamed for being a man? >> judge judy: your dog bit him. >> i understand, ma'am, but i feel that it was provoked. >> announcer: "judge judy." you are about to enter the courtroom you are about to enter the courtroom of judge judith sheindlin.
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